Comments on: Understanding Missional: Personalizing the Central Tenets http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/ Live your faith. Share your life. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:27:26 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: A Threadbare Palantir · Christendom? Post-Christendom? http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-515423 A Threadbare Palantir · Christendom? Post-Christendom? Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:23:45 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-515423 [...] make sure you’ve set aside a goodly chunk of time and read through these articles (One, Two, Three, and Four). I think he totalled up the words at the end of the week to about 13,000. [...] [...] make sure you’ve set aside a goodly chunk of time and read through these articles (One, Two, Three, and Four). I think he totalled up the words at the end of the week to about 13,000. [...]

]]> By: Random Acts of Linkage #74 : Subversive Influence http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-447532 Random Acts of Linkage #74 : Subversive Influence Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:59:06 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-447532 [...] Floyd McClung on Missional Living apparently there’s an important personal aspect. [...] [...] Floyd McClung on Missional Living apparently there’s an important personal aspect. [...]

]]> By: Joe Miller http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-435124 Joe Miller Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:35:13 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-435124 Greetings, I wanted to let you know that <a href="http://www.morethancake.org/2008/06/friend-of-missional.html" rel="nofollow">I made use of some of your great work</a> (via the "Friend of Missional Site") so I hope you don't mind :-) Greetings, I wanted to let you know that I made use of some of your great work (via the “Friend of Missional Site”) so I hope you don’t mind :-)

]]> By: What is Missional?? Is that even a real word? « Celtichound’s Weblog http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-380596 What is Missional?? Is that even a real word? « Celtichound’s Weblog Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:18:46 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-380596 [...] A missional church will requires that its leaders be missiologists.1. From Brother Maynard [...] [...] A missional church will requires that its leaders be missiologists.1. From Brother Maynard [...]

]]> By: Important Missional Conversations » The Blind Beggar http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-374916 Important Missional Conversations » The Blind Beggar Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:40:18 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-374916 [...] Understanding Missional: Personalizing the Central Tenets [...] [...] Understanding Missional: Personalizing the Central Tenets [...]

]]> By: Larry Chouinard http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-374158 Larry Chouinard Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:34:07 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-374158 Hey guys great stuff! It is critical that missional leaders intentionally embed in the heart of all who would participate in the Missio Dei, what Hirsch calls a missional DNA (mDNA). Without this foundational script the church oftens morphs into an introverted command and control center. So, as suggested by Cindy-Lu #6, the missional church must create time and space for care, training and activating all the parts for missional service. That training involves issues of character, a biblical literacy, and a cultural savviness. As Rick astutely notes, the missional church "gets its identity from its people" #1. Although Jesus took the better part of 3 years to prepare his disciples for their missional tasks, it should be observed that they learned by doing, alongside a master teacher who led them into edgy learning situations. How can we restore this teaching model in a culture sliced and fragmented by dualistic tendencies? Also, Bro. Maynard's observation that, "the church catholic (i.e., worldwide universal) is the main concern of missional effort rather than the local church", is an important insight. I would add that a missional church is Kingdom driven, and not concerned to promote ecclesial traditions or denominational peculiarities. It may be that a missional movement can be the greatest catalyst for unity, as embodiment and witness to God's new creation is given priority over denominational allegiance. When mission forms a people the result is a movement not an institution. Thanks for stimulating these thoughts. I look forward to learning from the ongoing discussion. Hey guys great stuff! It is critical that missional leaders intentionally embed in the heart of all who would participate in the Missio Dei, what Hirsch calls a missional DNA (mDNA). Without this foundational script the church oftens morphs into an introverted command and control center. So, as suggested by Cindy-Lu #6, the missional church must create time and space for care, training and activating all the parts for missional service. That training involves issues of character, a biblical literacy, and a cultural savviness. As Rick astutely notes, the missional church “gets its identity from its people” #1. Although Jesus took the better part of 3 years to prepare his disciples for their missional tasks, it should be observed that they learned by doing, alongside a master teacher who led them into edgy learning situations. How can we restore this teaching model in a culture sliced and fragmented by dualistic tendencies?
Also, Bro. Maynard’s observation that, “the church catholic (i.e., worldwide universal) is the main concern of missional effort rather than the local church”, is an important insight. I would add that a missional church is Kingdom driven, and not concerned to promote ecclesial traditions or denominational peculiarities. It may be that a missional movement can be the greatest catalyst for unity, as embodiment and witness to God’s new creation is given priority over denominational allegiance. When mission forms a people the result is a movement not an institution.
Thanks for stimulating these thoughts. I look forward to learning from the ongoing discussion.

]]> By: Subversive Influence » Blog Archive » http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-374141 Subversive Influence » Blog Archive » Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:50:29 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-374141 [...] Calacirian: Brother Maynard did a very thorough series last week on the... [Pingback, of 11 on Understanding Missional: Personalizing the Central Tenets] [...] [...] Calacirian: Brother Maynard did a very thorough series last week on the… [Pingback, of 11 on Understanding Missional: Personalizing the Central Tenets] [...]

]]> By: Calacirian » Christendom? Post-Christendom? http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-374070 Calacirian » Christendom? Post-Christendom? Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:26:37 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-374070 [...] Brother Maynard did a very thorough series last week on the definition of missional. If you missed it, get a cup of coffee (or something), make sure you’ve set aside a goodly chunk of time and read through these articles (One, Two, Three, and Four). I think he totalled up the words at the end of the week to about 13,000. They’re all good, as is usual with Bro. M. And I agreed with most of what he has to say (not that what I think matters a hill of beans, mind you). But there were a couple of references to things like “our Christian heritage” and “Christendom v. post-Christendom,” that got me thinking. Not that I necessarily disagreed, but something about them made me think and ponder … hard. Here are the quotes that got me pondering: From Sorting Missional Characteristics [...] [...] Brother Maynard did a very thorough series last week on the definition of missional. If you missed it, get a cup of coffee (or something), make sure you’ve set aside a goodly chunk of time and read through these articles (One, Two, Three, and Four). I think he totalled up the words at the end of the week to about 13,000. They’re all good, as is usual with Bro. M. And I agreed with most of what he has to say (not that what I think matters a hill of beans, mind you). But there were a couple of references to things like “our Christian heritage” and “Christendom v. post-Christendom,” that got me thinking. Not that I necessarily disagreed, but something about them made me think and ponder … hard. Here are the quotes that got me pondering: From Sorting Missional Characteristics [...]

]]> By: Lillie http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-374025 Lillie Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:44:07 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-374025 hi i enjoyed the read hi i enjoyed the read

]]> By: Rick Meigs http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/understanding-missional-personalizing-the-central-tenets/comment-page-1/#comment-373918 Rick Meigs Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:07:09 +0000 http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/wordpress/?p=1353#comment-373918 Nice observation on dualism Cindy. I haven't thought of that, but I like it. I'm an introvert, but I have found ways of starting the conversation. The problem is that after a couple of questions, if the other person doesn't pick it up, I'm lost :-(. Nice observation on dualism Cindy. I haven’t thought of that, but I like it.

I’m an introvert, but I have found ways of starting the conversation. The problem is that after a couple of questions, if the other person doesn’t pick it up, I’m lost :-(.

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