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		<title>By: How Do You Pray: Synchroblog &#171; Faith Labyrinth</title>
		<link>http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/fear-not-the-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-381283</link>
		<dc:creator>How Do You Pray: Synchroblog &#171; Faith Labyrinth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Prodigal Daughter - How to Not Pray Barry Taylor - Honest Faith - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray? Brother Maynard - Subversive Influence - Fear Not the Silence Che Vachon - ThisStream - My Thoughts&#8230; Cindy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How do I Pray? &#171; A Life Profound</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do I Pray? &#171; A Life Profound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Walker One Congregation Experiments with Emerging Prayer Susan Barnes Synchroblog: How Do You Pray? Brother Maynard Fear Not the Silence Nate Peres How Do I Pray? Barry Taylor Synchroblog:How Do You Pray? Emerging [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Subversive Influence &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</title>
		<link>http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/fear-not-the-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-374959</link>
		<dc:creator>Subversive Influence &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brother Maynard</title>
		<link>http://subversiveinfluence.com/2007/08/fear-not-the-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-374860</link>
		<dc:creator>Brother Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind feedback.

Erin, I said &lt;a href=&quot;http://retrofited.blogspot.com/2007/08/prayer-without-throwing-things.html#comment-8837584799351148718&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;something like that&lt;/a&gt; on Former Leader&#039;s post.  Kinda neat, we&#039;re not that far from  the Spirit even now.
Pam, we grok.
Peggy, hadn&#039;t thought of that &#8212; weird.  I can only figure it has to do with the litany of many-worded prayers and the push to &quot;praying up a storm&quot; that comes from the evangelical charismania that I&#039;ve known.  To pray is holy, to pray longer is holier, to pray more... you get the idea.  Except we get bored easily and come up with &quot;tricks&quot; and lists to keep our words flowing for the full hour.  Never figured out that Isn&#039;t quite what God was after all along!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind feedback.</p>
<p>Erin, I said <a href="http://retrofited.blogspot.com/2007/08/prayer-without-throwing-things.html#comment-8837584799351148718"  rel="nofollow">something like that</a> on Former Leader&#8217;s post.  Kinda neat, we&#8217;re not that far from  the Spirit even now.<br />
Pam, we grok.<br />
Peggy, hadn&#8217;t thought of that &#8212; weird.  I can only figure it has to do with the litany of many-worded prayers and the push to &#8220;praying up a storm&#8221; that comes from the evangelical charismania that I&#8217;ve known.  To pray is holy, to pray longer is holier, to pray more&#8230; you get the idea.  Except we get bored easily and come up with &#8220;tricks&#8221; and lists to keep our words flowing for the full hour.  Never figured out that Isn&#8217;t quite what God was after all along!</p>
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		<title>By: Prayer Helps That Get Me Deeper &#187; The Blind Beggar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prayer Helps That Get Me Deeper &#187; The Blind Beggar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that a 100% introvert would struggle with silence...unless to be an introvert is to hold constant conversation within oneself?  

Being almost 100% extrovert, just being quiet and listening more to others feels like the beginning of prayer--listen to another--whether it is a person-in-the flesh or our ever-present companion-God.

I just finished reading Peterson&#039;s &quot;Eat This Book&quot; and so I am pondering prayer in a new light...but I still find that 25 years of Fosdick&#039;s &quot;The Meaning of Prayer&quot;, with its beautiful prayers culled through the ages, he a good exercise every other year.

More often, I find prayer a kind of running conversation with God--one with plenty of silence as we both are doing a lot of observing these days.

Thoughtful post, Brother.

AbiSomeone ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that a 100% introvert would struggle with silence&#8230;unless to be an introvert is to hold constant conversation within oneself?  </p>
<p>Being almost 100% extrovert, just being quiet and listening more to others feels like the beginning of prayer&#8211;listen to another&#8211;whether it is a person-in-the flesh or our ever-present companion-God.</p>
<p>I just finished reading Peterson&#8217;s &#8220;Eat This Book&#8221; and so I am pondering prayer in a new light&#8230;but I still find that 25 years of Fosdick&#8217;s &#8220;The Meaning of Prayer&#8221;, with its beautiful prayers culled through the ages, he a good exercise every other year.</p>
<p>More often, I find prayer a kind of running conversation with God&#8211;one with plenty of silence as we both are doing a lot of observing these days.</p>
<p>Thoughtful post, Brother.</p>
<p>AbiSomeone ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Calacirian &#187; The Appearance of Holiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calacirian &#187; The Appearance of Holiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cindy Bryan Teach Me to Pray&#8230;Again? Lyn Hallewell God, Prayer and Me Erin Word Prayer=Sex with God Rick Meigs Prayer Helps that Get Me Deeper Alan Knox Pray without Ceasing Julie Clawson Prayer Synchroblog Heather Synchroblog Prayer (Heather&#8217;s Husband) Prayer Synchroblog II Lydia How Do You Pray Che Vachon My Thoughts&#8230; Paul Mayers Praying and Learning to Pray Again Sonja Andrews The Appearance of Holiness Jon Peres How Do I Pray? Paul Walker One Congregation Experiments with Emerging Prayer Susan Barnes Synchroblog: How Do You Pray? Brother Maynard Fear Not the Silence Nate Peres How Do I Pray? Barry Taylor Synchroblog:How Do You Pray? Emerging Grace Clearance Sale on Intercession Books Jim Lehmer Synchroblog - How Do You Pray? Lew A How Do You Pray? - Synchroblog Jon Hallewell When I&#8217;m Spoken To Deb Prayer Synchroblog Barb Prayer without Throwing Things Patti Blount How Do I Pray Doug Jones How I Pray Glenn Hagar Prayer Phases Pam Hogeweide The Art of Blue Tape Spirituality Kathryn Joy John Smulo Mary Michael Holcomb Cynthia Clack Rachel Warwick Andy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pam Hogeweide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam Hogeweide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bro M,

A lot of it includes a rejection of prayer-formula theology â€” you know, the idea that if we pray just right, God will fill the order. Mostly, I see that as magic, a kind of Christian witchcraft, where God is so small as to be commanded by our whimsâ€¦ if we get the formula right.

Preach it up, bro.  Pagans often liken their spellcraft to prayercraft. That&#039;s something to think about.

I too have come to discover the beauty of faith stripped down in the desert, stripped of language or visitation.  I&#039;ve been in my wilderness for three summers now. It freaked me out for a while, to go from hearing God on a regular basis to &lt;i&gt;nada&lt;/i&gt; was just a bit jolting.  I have now since discovered the power and commonness of these spiritual deserts. The recent articles about Mother Theresa are a classic example of how many of us, if not most of us, struggle inwardly with feeling God or hearing God, with believing He is.

Words help me believe alot. When God speaks to me, and certainly when I speak to him in the language of prayer, these practices help immensely.  But when my words evaporate, what then will my faith anchor itself to? 

I find that it is God himself who becomes the anchor of my faith. Not words, nor spiritual disciplines, which, honestly, can breed arrogance and spiritual pompousness in a heartbeat.  It is the grace and mercy of God, his benevolent nature that my faith finds it&#039;s way towards. 

I have no faith in me nor the spiritual activity I am capable of producing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bro M,</p>
<p>A lot of it includes a rejection of prayer-formula theology â€” you know, the idea that if we pray just right, God will fill the order. Mostly, I see that as magic, a kind of Christian witchcraft, where God is so small as to be commanded by our whimsâ€¦ if we get the formula right.</p>
<p>Preach it up, bro.  Pagans often liken their spellcraft to prayercraft. That&#8217;s something to think about.</p>
<p>I too have come to discover the beauty of faith stripped down in the desert, stripped of language or visitation.  I&#8217;ve been in my wilderness for three summers now. It freaked me out for a while, to go from hearing God on a regular basis to <i>nada</i> was just a bit jolting.  I have now since discovered the power and commonness of these spiritual deserts. The recent articles about Mother Theresa are a classic example of how many of us, if not most of us, struggle inwardly with feeling God or hearing God, with believing He is.</p>
<p>Words help me believe alot. When God speaks to me, and certainly when I speak to him in the language of prayer, these practices help immensely.  But when my words evaporate, what then will my faith anchor itself to? </p>
<p>I find that it is God himself who becomes the anchor of my faith. Not words, nor spiritual disciplines, which, honestly, can breed arrogance and spiritual pompousness in a heartbeat.  It is the grace and mercy of God, his benevolent nature that my faith finds it&#8217;s way towards. </p>
<p>I have no faith in me nor the spiritual activity I am capable of producing.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several people have talked about silence - it seems to be a bit of a theme. It&#039;s something I don&#039;t remember often enough. Thanks. I too liked &quot;God hears us waiting.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several people have talked about silence &#8211; it seems to be a bit of a theme. It&#8217;s something I don&#8217;t remember often enough. Thanks. I too liked &#8220;God hears us waiting.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Perigrinatio &#187; how i pray (synchroblog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perigrinatio &#187; how i pray (synchroblog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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